Dr. Lesemann--Why take any action at all?
Dr. Kent--Only from the standpoint of ethics.
Dr. Beaton--I do not think it is unethical, I just do not like the idea.
Dr. Manning - I do not believe we ought to take official action on this, because I know there will be some doctors who do not want it. Perhaps it would be unfair to nurse anaesthetists. In a sense you would be favoring just those who have an M.D. If he gives it out to his own patients, it would be up to him.
Dr. Lesemann--They are not 'his own' patients.
Dr. Manning--I tell my patients about this in the office, that I am going to call a consultant and he will charge.
Dr. Costin--Does anyone feel there is an ethical problem involved? Why not tell Dr. Rupp it is up to him? I so move.
Dr. Bernstein--I do not actually see any objection to it, but do not like the idea. I think too much of this education confuses and upsets people.
Motion seconded by Dr. Kent, and carried.
Letter from the Secretary of the District #2, Arizona State Nurses Association, in reply to the inquiry of January 28th, 1953, relative to nurses working for the osteopaths, was read by the Secretary. The A.S.N.A.'s attorney, C.A. Carson, says "There is, in our opinion, no present legal prohibition against the practice of nursing under the supervision of a licensed osteopathic physician or surgeon, or in an approved hospital of that school, nor was there such a prohibition prior to passage of the new act." (The Medical Practice Act for Osteopathic Physicians and Surgeons).
With reference to prescriptions for narcotics, Dr. Manning said that he has been called on recently by federal men from Phoenix with reference to this matter; that some of the outlying drug stores will still take prescriptions by telephone, but that physicians have been warned to be careful.
Dr. Manning said, off the record, that if the State Society, through the A.M.A., would write to our legislators in Washington, trying to get someone to work out a check system--calling you back to see if you are there--something might be worked out.
Dr. Costin - What do you do if someone calls at 2: A.M. because of dysmenorrhea?
Dr. Manning--Get out of bed, or say you will call a taxi to come to your house, pick up the prescription and go to the drug store and bring the medicine to you; or have the patient come to your house and pick it up.
Dr. Beaton--What is your own feeling, Dr. Manning.
Dr. Manning--I think we should go ahead and get Council to do something about it. This man from Phoenix said they have been squeezing them from above, and they have to carry out their job. They caught one man the other night because he said his number was 4,000. They are in town now and will check Tucson for the next two months.
Dr. Harry Thompson--This should go to your legislative committee and council that this problem be investigated and it may be possible to amend that. I move that this be forwarded to Council and acquaint them with this problem here. It might be worthwhile to go to Jacobson and review the Act and see if we can make an intelligent recommendations. I admit our problem here is different that in other cities in the country. Most of the prescriptions that are sent out over the telephone are for codeine, possibly 90%, and this should come under exempt narcotics. I move that we refer this matter to the Council to see if we can, on a state level, make some recommendation to our legislature to amend or change the present narcotic law. Motion seconded by Dr. Kent and carried.
Fee schedule received from the Colorado State Medical Society in response to our inquiry was presented by the Secretary. It was moved by Dr. Rudolph that this matter be tabled. Motion seconded by Dr. Lesemann and carried.
Secretary instructed to obtain more material from Alameda County Plan.
