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ADOT US 60 AND WILLIAMS GATEWAY CORRIDOR DEFINITION STUDIES
Public Open House
Meeting Summary Notes
Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2005; 5:30 7:30 p.m.
Location: Peralta Trails Elementary School, Gold Canyon Ranch
Re: Joint US 60 & Williams Gateway Corridor Definition Studies
The following meeting notes are intended to be a summary of the discussions at the meeting. Any changes
or corrections to the meeting summary notes must be received by the author within ten days. After that
date, the Project Team will proceed with the project based on the information outlined in these meeting
summary notes.
THOSE PRESENT:
M. Ackerson, Roc Arnett, Louis W. Babin, Steve Baker, Joan Baumstarck, Roger
and Barb Bednarz, Don Beets, Edward Beltrane, Vicki Bever, Don Bluchler, Brent
Bowden, Joe Brendel, Genevieve Bricker, Jean Buckborough, Matt Burdick,
Dorothy Bushno, Craig Cardon, Donald Cline, Greg Collier, Mike Cooney,
Barbara Cox, Robert Cunningham, Steve and Kay Curry, Waldron Dave, Doug
Dobson, Rick Durkit, Howard Enkling, John Enright, Andrea Feliz, Ernie Feliz, Judy
Ferguson, Richard Ferguson, Marco Fierro, Roy Fuerhern, Toxiy Gasdonie, Sandra
Gebbia, Gene & Jane Gemrt, Sharon & Larry Gill, Walt & Darlene Girton, Ron
Griffman, Fred Haigh, Jim Hampshire, Joann and Jack Hannigan, Doug Hansen,
Mr. and Mrs. Rich Haraldson, Sam Haymart, Broc C. Hiatt, Dan Hjartarson, Ray &
Cheryl Husse, Roy and Jan Jackson, Jim Jones, William Kane, Wayne and Kay
Karver, Ron Kelly, Bill Kelsey, Rebecca Knight, Keith Krueger, Jack Kunkle,
Andy Kurtz, William T. La Pierre, Tracy Lane, Maxine Leather, Jim Lerner, Amy
Malloy, Amy Malloy, Ken Martin, Pam & Gail Martin, Bryan Martyn, Judith
Masterfield, LaDonna Mayer, Margaret McDermott, Marie and Ralph McMillan,
Alice Milbrat, Robert Montgomery, Bob Mulhair, William Mundinger, Dale
Nathan, Ray Nault, Tim & Barb Newman, George Pasquel III, Tina Patel,
Rosemary Pere, Dave Perkins, Joe Pogus, Maxine Ragsdale, Robert Raymond,
Sarah Reynolds, Court Rich , Randy Rosane, Palmer & Jan Saylor, John
Schroeder, Brian Schumacher, H. Shams, Mike Shaus, H. Allen Shockley, Maynard
Simenson, Morris Simpson, Larry Sirios, Gene Slechta, Ralph Slovan, Tana Smith,
Les Stapleton, Jim Stewart, Sharon Stinard, Barry Stutter, Tami Tack, Jerry Thacher,
Darrell Touitt, Cheryl Toy, Matt Tulman, Marlow E. Urdahl, Margaret Urdahl, Jeff
Van Hook, Dave Vander Meulen, Carole Vander Meulen, Ann Weber, Ed
Weber, Thomas Weill, Donna Whalen, Jim Whalen, Jack White, Berwyn Wilbrink,
Dolly and Louie Winkelmann, and Tom Wolf
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Staff and Consultant Team Present: John Pein, ADOT; Andy Smith, ADOT; Dianne
Kresich, ADOT; Pete Lima, Lima & Associates; Thomas Herz, Lima & Associates;
Hugh Louch, Cambridge Systematics; Paul Waung, DMJM+HARRIS; and Peggy
Fiandaca, Partners for Strategic Action, Inc.
A. MEETING OVERVIEW
The format of the Public Open House was an informal opportunity for
participants to review the displays related to both studies and ask questions of
the consulting team and staff. Two brief presentations were provided by Andy
Smith, ADOT Project Manager. He explained that the meeting purpose was to
obtain public input regarding the two corridors. The study areas for each
corridor are:
US 60 Study Area: Examines a corridor that includes a possible reroute of a
seven mile segment of US 60 through Arizona State Lands between
Mountain View Road and the Renaissance Festival area parallel to and
south of the current US 60. In addition, the existing US 60 is under study from
Renaissance Festival area to Florence Junction.
Williams Gateway Study Area: Corridor running southeasterly from Loop
202 (Santan) in Maricopa County between the General Motors Desert
Proving Grounds and Williams Gateway Airport heading east and
terminating at US 60 in Pinal County.
Andy presented the information collected regarding each corridor, provided an
overview of the study process being utilized, and what was learned from the
data and conversations held to date.
B. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
Following is a summary of questions (Q.), answers (A.), and comments (C.) made
following the presentation.
Q. The study needs to coordinate with SRP and Williams Gateway
A. The study is undertaking significant coordination with SRP, MAG Williams
Gateway, Arizona State Lands, the County, and jurisdictions.
Q. The turning lanes on US 60 into Peralta Trails are too short.
A. We will forward your comment to the responsible ADOT Phoenix Traffic
Engineering.
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Q. What about funding?
A. Pinal County has a ½ cent sales tax; the County can work with developers,
and can partner with ADOT.
Q. What about all the previous studies? Nothing has been done. Right now it
takes an hour to go from Ironwood to Mountain Brook.
A. We are taking a fresh look and considering other corridors.
C. There is an inequity in funding Maricopa County is taking share of Pinal
County money.
A. MAG has ½ cents sales tax and an adopted regional transportation plan.
C. We need to have a parallel facility from end of Superstition Freeway to
Florence Junction.
A. That is why we are here to get your comments. As well as to see if a
parallel facility is needed or if better access management planning
required.
Q. What is the timeframe?
A. The Corridor Definition Studies will be completed by November 2005.
Currently, there is no timeframe for other studies or construction.
Q. US 60 has safety issues there is only one route to Mesa there is no
alternative.
A. ADOT is concerned about safety and the study is addressing safety issues.
Q. What is meant by to the Board ?
A. State Transportation Board which is comprised of seven members from
various parts of the state.
Q. There was money to widen US 60 to 10 lanes at one time. Pinal County
said, Take that money and do a bypass. Pinal County has been working
on acquiring the right of way (ROW) . So where did the money go?
People in the area felt 10 lanes was unacceptable.
A. There was never money identified for a 10-lane facility. The total funds
committed ($12.8 million) in FY 2000 were to acquire ROW, design and
construct traffic interchanges through Gold Canyon starting in FY 2001.
The State Transportation Board dropped those projects and committed
the funds (FY 2001-2005) to the flyover of US 60 and SR 79. The projects
listed would have been interim improvements to US 60.
C. Public transportation as a means to solve our transportation problems.
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Q. Article in today s newspaper regarding the MAG Williams Gateway study.
It said it only goes to the Pinal County line. Will that study have an impact
on where the road is directed into Pinal County?
A. Maricopa Association of Governments is looking at an alignment and will
be examining two, three miles into Pinal County. ADOT s study is working in
cooperation with their efforts and will determine what type of facility and
general location to continue east to US. 60.*
Q. Where is funding coming from?
A. Funding sources have not been identified.
Q. MAG is deciding what alternative in May, and will Pinal County be stuck
with the alignment? It s important where the road is aimed.
A. Same answer as above at *.
Q. What are you doing (ADOT) in the planning on Williams Gateway in Pinal
County?
A. The four corridors under study are to determine the need, type, and
jurisdictional road responsibility and the recommendations will be
presented to ADOT s Board. Further direction will come from the Board to
either conduct engineering studies to determine alignment or to do
nothing (would revert to local cities, towns, or County).
Q. Pinal County is going to grow more it is like the tail wagging the dog.
Why would ADOT put a roadway through developments that are already
in place, doesn t it make the process more time consuming?
A. This study is not determining an alignment, only a corridor. Your input is to
assist in defining the width.
Q. Could the MAG Williams Gateway Freeway stop at Pinal County line if it s
not appropriate to go any further?
A. Yes, but consideration will be given to the need of lesser facilities than a
freeway.
Q. When can Pinal County get a study that identifies an alignment with
funding?
A. Will have a better idea upon the completion of these efforts.
Q. What are the parameters of where the Williams Gateway alignment might
hook up to 60?
A. This study will determine. (See answer above *)
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C. The loop from Goldfield to the Renaissance Festival is a waste of money.
You should consider doing a bunch of laterals off US 60. This would make
more sense.
C. I have a problem with the bypass. In Peralta we have all the local traffic as
well as the through traffic. It should come down farther. There is nothing to
handle local traffic.
Q. If the alignment for the corridor is bypassed, then what happens to the
existing US 60?
A. The current US 60 could revert to a Pinal County road.
Q. Regarding accident rates what is an acceptable level? Is it 2004 or 2005
level? What is an acceptable death level? We have had several deaths in
recent months in the area.
A. ADOT s goal is to provide safe state highways throughout Arizona. Safety is
one of the key criteria that the US 60 Corridor Definition Study will consider
in developing a corridor concept and providing recommendations to the
State Transportation Board.
Q. What are the timeframes for completion? It is very frustrating. We need it
sooner.
A. We are moving as fast as possible if we go too fast we could miss future
issues that have yet to be identified or evaluated.
C. COMMENTS RECEIVED ON DISPLAY BOARDS
As participants reviewed display boards they had an opportunity to write down
any comments they might have. Following are those comments collected.
• Pinal County impact fees should be increased to obtain funds for
infrastructure.
• Amen!
• Pinal County has a ½ transportation tax. Where is the money? Is it not
available to move the US 60 corridor from a study into the realm of reality?
D. QUESTIONNAIRE INPUT RESPONSES
A comment feedback questionnaire was distributed and the responses were
summarized. Participants were asked what study corridor they were
commenting on and their responses were organized based on what corridor
they indicated.
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GENERAL COMMENTS/SUGGESTIONS - WILLIAMS GATEWAY CORRIDOR SELECTED
• Alternative #3 is the preferred route, as a councilmember from AJ.
However, we realize Option 3 creates problems with the full interchange
at Ellsworth, so we strongly support Alternative 5. Alternative 7 displaces
too many existing residents to serve a few.
• Because of the Williams Gateway Airport, the Plan #7 makes the most
sense due to airport traffic and if it leads into an area already developed.
They are only large-acre properties, so only a few families would have to
be moved. Just like Lehi for the 202 Loop.
GENERAL COMMENTS/SUGGESTIONS - US 60 CORRIDOR SELECTED
• An additional east-west route is needed now in developed communities.
If 60 is jammed up, either accident or event traffic, no alternative back
way is available to get out, to Mesa, for example, especially emergency
traffic (can get from Kings Ranch to Superstition, but that s it).
• Highway 60 at Gold Canyon is at capacity. During normal times when the
Renaissance Festival and LPGA Golf Tournament are on, traffic is stopped
for several miles. There is a very serious safety problem today. If Highway
60 is blocked by an accident (which it was this month), there is no way to
get to a hospital in case of a medical emergency. There needs to be an
alternative route soon!
• Given the rapid population growth along the current US 60, I am
concerned with the safety of residents of Gold Canyon when traffic
increases above current levels. For this reason I strongly believe that the US
60 bypass should be completed as soon as possible. I also believe that the
bypass should be continued on to the Hwy 79 Junction. Growth will
extend along the 60 that far before any bypass can be completed.
• 60 Corridor should go to Hwy 79 near Florence. Population is understated
for your study. Growth is expanding from 15,000, not the 6,000 in the study.
Current entrance to Peralta Trails is inadequate.
• US 60 Corridor should extend from the end of the freeway to Florence
Junction. This bypass is needed in the next five years. Currently if US 60 is
closed east of Goldfield Road, Gold Canyon residents have no access to
hospitals in Mesa.
• US 60 corridor should extend from the end of the freeway to Florence
Junction. This bypass is needed now. If there is a medical emergency in
Gold Canyon, the US 60 is the only access to hospitals, etc. With planned
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homes coming to the area, US 60 traffic will only get worse and safety
jeopardized.
• If the legislature changes the amount of land to be sold in a year, US 60
will be jammed with travelers and construction well before 2016 or 2020.
At the present time, US 60 is overused and needs relief from the Apache
Junction line to Florence Junction. The fair and golf tournament were
good examples of how 60 can be a mess.
• I have three priorities. 1. We need one additional road to get from Gold
Canyon to Apache Junction when accidents happen you can t get
anywhere. 2. Please put in some additional roads before the population
grows out of control. 3. The road from San Tan to Florence Junction would
be wonderful, as it would take a lot of traffic off of US 60.
• We need more highways. Today traffic was down to one lane between
Bashas and Texaco. It was stop and go - nearly had two rear-enders. You
could also widen the existing 60. We need a bypass!
• Maricopa (MAG) and Pinal (PAG) need to coordinate their studies. Seems
inconceivable that they are doing independent studies.
• Local and thru-traffic needs to be separated. US 60 Corridor should be
constructed to Florence Junction. With growth, it is inevitable.
• Mountain Brook and Gold Canyon Kings Ranch Road have no other
means of access.
• To say the US 60 Corridor is important to Gold Canyon is an
understatement! We in Gold Canyon have seen the traffic on US 60 grow
to the point of inconvenience, frustration, and at times a threat to our
safety. The big trucks and rigs that have traveled US 60 for years do run the
red lights on occasion as they travel through Gold Canyon. I fear that in
the future there will be a terrible accident. Another serious matter is that
there is only one way in and out of Gold Canyon. When traffic is heavy
from October through April, travel on 60 is slow and we have no
alternative roadways. PLEASE DO A HIGHWAY BYPASS OF GOLD CANYON!
PLEASE!!!
• The challenge of the US 60 through Gold Canyon is that it has to carry all
the through traffic plus the local traffic. A bypass was proposed to carry
the through traffic. It seems that the bypass should come in beyond
proposed mile marker 207 or the same problem will occur down the road
beyond mile marker 207.
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• Extend bypass to Florence Junction, cheaper to do it now than 10 20
years from now. There are already talks of developing 1500 homes in the El
Camino Viejo area.
• Please consider the US 60 corridor (bypass) sooner than later. Why? (1) 202
completed 07. (2) 40 sq. file A-3 annexing 37NS; (3) Gold Canyon highest
value houses? Demand by developers in Pinal County.
• I am in favor of studying the extension of the US 60 bypass to Florence
Junction where there is an existing interchange.
• The US 60 is in need of immediate relief. The traffic is very heavy, even
when there are no special events. High semi s and mining trucks speed at
over 70 mph every day. The Peralta Road intersection needs a traffic light
and extended turn lane before someone is killed there. US 60 bypass
should be an extension of freeway with exit to Gold Canyon. Are so many
studies needed? Cost could be used to build roads. Bypass should come
back into 60 closer to Florence Junction.
• Developer should help pay for entrance to residential areas.
• Extend the US 60 corridor bypass all the way to Florence Junction. Provide
better left turn space from US 60 eastbound at Peralta Road.
• We would like additional information as to why US 60 (bypass) Corridor
Definition Study (so far) precludes connection of bypass to US 79 if future
population growth warrants same. Concern is for a potential bottleneck
between mile marker 207 and Florence Junction mile marker 212
especially given rapidly increasing long-haul trucking rigs already
impacting US 60.
• Please do not stop the proposed bypass just east of the Renaissance
Festival grounds. If you re going to do anything, take it all the way to
Florence Junction with exits to the festival and Gold Canyon. It would
seem to be a much better use of our tax dollars. I am very saddened to
see so much of the desert disappearing due to population growth. Can
you provide for adequate preservation of this sensitive land mass?
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GENERAL COMMENTS/SUGGESTIONS - BOTH CORRIDORS SELECTED
• Forget US 60 Corridor loop from Greenfield to Renaissance extend
Gateway Corridor along Elliott or Pecos East to 79 Junction and have
north/south laterals at Superstition Mtn. Blvd., Kings Ranch Road, and
Peralta Trail that connect. Additional east/west roads can be constructed
between these roads as development occurs.
• We need to have the reroute of US 60 go from the end of the current US
60 (Superstition Freeway) all the way to Florence Junction parallel - 60
through Gold Canyon and not connecting with it until the intersection at
Florence Junction. There would need to be an intersection road from the
reroute to accommodate traffic coming into the Renaissance Fair area.
Traffic proceeding to Globe and Florence should be routed to the Williams
Gateway connection at Florence Junction.
• We have lived in Gold Canyon for five years. The traffic flow gets heavier
and heavier. It seems like there are more and more accidents. When
accidents happen, US 60 has been closed for hours. For both safety
(access to medical services) and convenience (access to and from our
home), this becomes more and more of a concern to us. The future
construction of businesses and more homes starting now will only add to
this potential danger.
• With the increase in the housing market at such a rapid pace, improved
and additional transportation is vital for these new communities to thrive
and be successful.
• Suggested corridor is inadequate should go all of the way to Florence
Junction!
• Please separate through traffic from local traffic in whatever decision you
make. Please connect Williams Gateway to 60 near Florence Junction.
• I really feel a Williams Field corridor that should run parallel to Route 60
and adjoining Route 60 at Florence Junction would be the smartest and
best expressway then arterial routes from Peralta Road, Kings Ranch
Road, Superstition Mountain Road could run south and meet the Williams
Corridor.
• It would be a good idea to adopt California s highway lighting philosophy
to only light ramp areas. Every car already has two lights on it, so it is not
necessary to light the whole freeway. Also, where light is used, only full
cutoff fixtures (as defined by the CESNA) should be used. Money saved by
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not installing excessive fixtures could be used to make the roads wider. A
lot of really bad lighting has been installed on Arizona freeways. Lighting a
freeway from the side of the road instead of from above really causes a
lot of eyestrain.
• Public transportation availability? Greater publicity of public meetings.
• Please send the bypass all the (way) to Florence Junction or at least mile
marker 208. I and a lot of other people live right on US 60. There s too
much traffic, it s too loud, the trucks are moving too fast, and I can t get
to sleep at night without earplugs. I also work at Fuji Chemical on Pecos
and Mountain Road. Please get these roads in ASAP. Thanks.
GENERAL COMMENTS/SUGGESTIONS NO BOX SELECTED GROUP
• I am concerned about the safety of the left turn lane from eastbound US
60 to northbound Peralta Road. Lane is short and uneven. Speeds are
high, creates a very dangerous situation.
• My question is how many people need to be maimed or killed at these
lights. Highways with lights kill; drivers are not familiar, rear-end others at
these lights.
• Thank you for your time and effort!
• I would have liked to see the green arrow boards for direction (to the
meeting). I think we missed giving an overview of the ADOT process. I
believe the public thinks they were here to hear about a new road. The
process explanation is very important, mostly because of the previous
DCR study and the Florence Junction Superior pre-design studies.
Confusion makes the public believe we are incompetent or liars.
Impressive turnout. Thank you. Thank you also for the e-mail notification.
• We need a frontage road from Superstition Mountain Drive to Mountain
View, parallel to US 60, which would help alleviate things till the bypass
comes in. At El Camino Viejo and 60, there is a mobile home court, some
business, and an Ace Hardware coming in. Will there be a wide enough
corridor there? A longer bypass down to Florence Junction would be
preferable. I think if studies and planning and engineering (are) done
ASAP, our county officials will help you find funding so freeways are done
before everything grinds to a halt.
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CHALLENGES
Participants had an opportunity to review nine major challenges that were listed
on the input form. They were:
1. Rapid Population Growth
2. Development of State Lands
3. Annexation Issues
4. Traffic Increase
5. Safety
6. Regional and Statewide Connectivity
7. Local Access
8. Environmental Sensitivity
9. Funding
They were asked to identify the five major challenges that were most important
to them. Following are the number of responses correlated to which corridor
study they were responding to.
Williams/Gateway Group Responses: (2 Respondents)
Challenge 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Responses 2 2 1 1 2
US 60 Corridor Group Responses: (23 Respondents)
Challenge 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Responses 18 7 3 18 18 6 11 5 6
Both Corridors Group Responses: (12 Respondents)
Challenge 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Responses 8 6 5 10 7 1 7 3 2
No Box Selected Group Responses: (5 Respondents)
Challenge 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Responses 3 1 4 2 2 1 1 1
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The participants were able to provide their comments related to each of the
challenges. Following is a summary of the comments.
1. RAPID POPULATION GROWTH
US 60 Corridor Group Responses:
• We need more highways.
• ADOT should be pro-active to provide for US 60 bypass, before
development takes place and construction would be less intrusive.
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• Quick growth in north Pinal County means more traffic problems and
accidents.
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• This is a known statement and the east valley is not prepared for it.
• Sprawl is primary concern. Growth is not the problem, leap-frog
development is.
2. DEVELOPMENT OF ARIZONA LANDS
US 60 Corridor Group Responses:
• State land is subject of contention between Apache Junction and Gold
Canyon, because of commercial development.
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• Preserve green spaces along corridors, parks, etc.
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• Proper planned development and preservation is extremely important,
and the time to do it was yesterday!
3. ANNEXATION ISSUES
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• When will Apache Junction decide on Gold Canyon s fate and how
much leverage do they play in the corridor design (Apache Junction)?
4. TRAFFIC INCREASE
US 60 Corridor Group Responses:
• We need more highways.
• Going to explode and the need for highway bypass is now.
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Both Corridors Group Responses:
• This (is) direct issue of #1.
• Why does a seasonal activity (Renaissance Festival) seem to be a major
barrier to a corridor definition?
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• Great need to direct through traffic away from local traffic.
• Side road for Kings Ranch, Peralta & Superstition
• You can never build enough roads/highways to end congestion. More
roads = more traffic. The New Jersey Turnpike was supposed to end traffic
woes forever didn t happen!
5. SAFETY
US 60 Corridor Group Responses:
• US 60 is not safe. Speeding trucks and traffic have caused several bad
accidents.
• Peralta Road entry (lack of) especially with school buses.
• In case of medical emergency, if highway is closed due to accident,
there is no alternate route from Gold Canyon to Mesa.
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• Too many serious accidents have already happened on Route 60 Gold
Canyon area.
• Crossovers on a state highway are suicide without lights or underpasses.
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• Highway 60 is the only east/west corridor with a series of cul de sacs . To
go anywhere, residents in community must enter heavy traffic on 60 and
getting heavier every year!
• We need more highways.
• 60 unsafe now due to growing development and high speeds, poor turn
lanes.
• Ingress and digress off of 60 to developments, etc.
6. REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE CONNECTIVITY
US 60 Corridor Group Responses:
• Refer to #5 start us off with traffic lights.
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• Important to redistribute traffic and lighten the load on present highways.
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7. LOCAL ACCESS
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• US 60 is a parking lot on weekends and will be an impossibility to traverse
after 320 acres worth of Peralta is sold. And the 1200 homes east of the
same area built in 2006.
• Need better traffic flow through the east corridor allow better access to
west.
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• Give Renaissance Festival their own interchange.
8. ENVIRONMENTAL SENSITIVITY
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• When development takes place, some more stringent rules on NOT
allowing development by strip and revegetate as has been done in the
past.
9. FUNDING
US 60 Corridor Group Responses:
• When we buy in Mesa, we receive none of that tax money to help us in
Pinal County.
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• How and where do we obtain funding without businesses how do we
obtain business (economic development) without good highway access?
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• Get planning and everything done. Pinal County will help.
• Unfortunately we always seem to be under funded!
ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES
Participants were asked to identify any other challenges that they wanted the
study to consider. Following are the responses.
US 60 Corridor Group Responses:
• Public transportation
• Timeline how can such a major undertaking get done before traffic
conditions are unsafe and unbearable?
• The Maricopa Flood District needs more on its responsibility to allow US 60
to move forward.
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• Highway 60 is backed up for miles during Renaissance and LPGA
Tournaments. Highway 60 is at capacity during most hours during the
winter. With projected growth in Pinal County, this becomes an impossible
situation.
• Let s not delay! No further studies! We need the corridor now!
Both Corridors Group Responses:
• Historical significant areas identified before decisions made.
• Availability of public transportation. Bypass should extend to Hwy. 79.
Instead of trying to keep up with increase growth try getting ahead of
the curve.
• Bypass should be dropped and east/west corridor from Gateway be more
seriously considered.
No Box Selected Group Responses:
• Should plan for 6 8-lane highways in areas so you won t need to add
lanes in a few years at a higher cost!
